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Bearsie PoC Regular Unlicensed
Joined: 23 Feb 2005 Posts: 1161 Location: North of Kvaerner Yard, Philadelphia, USA
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 9:56 am Post subject: Dredgers |
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The highly modern ( at the time of build) steam dredger "Eimerbagger"
ex Viscount Ridley has been added to the "high tech" page.
Built on the Clyde around 1920 or so, I sold it to the Dutch
It would normally dredge and load the fill onto barges, since I didnt feel like adding a barge and a vessel without payload is no good,
I made it 2400 tons, assuming that it could dig about 100 tons an hour.
If the dredger experts tell me it's less I can always lower the pay load
http://mysite.verizon.net/ress3y0n _________________ Frohe Reise, Bearsie. |
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Bearsie PoC Regular Unlicensed
Joined: 23 Feb 2005 Posts: 1161 Location: North of Kvaerner Yard, Philadelphia, USA
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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Got brand new short sea trader from niknekmann in the works and 2 more dredgers.
Alas not much is happening lately due to 70 hour weeks and out of town travel... _________________ Frohe Reise, Bearsie. |
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StickyMonk PoC Veteran Special Licensee
Joined: 28 Aug 2006 Posts: 676 Location: South lincolnshire England
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 8:24 am Post subject: |
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was wondering what happened to you. _________________ Cheers
Matthew
for my ships,cargo and harbors don't visit my web site as they are not there anymore |
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Bearsie PoC Regular Unlicensed
Joined: 23 Feb 2005 Posts: 1161 Location: North of Kvaerner Yard, Philadelphia, USA
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 11:39 pm Post subject: Update |
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First Update in 3 months....
Tanker Olympic Mountain.
A DSR Coaster from the very early 50's.
Port of Bandar Shapur (now khomeini) Iran.
A Binnenschiff (Rijnshep) on the Kanal page. For this I added 2 xml files, as Tanker and as cargo, of course it is Dutch and shows the van Ommeren colors.
And the piece de resistance
A "Bay Steamer" (Fördedampfer) from 1885, the Sonderburg.
The ship was owned by the Flensburger & Sonderburger.
It was used to travel the new Kiel Kanal to Hamburg and back
and was so successful that the company later build 2 more similar steamers albeit slightly larger. Details can be found at the web site of the Deutsche Schiffsmuseum in Bremerhaven, as well as a paper model SPAM ***
I had to "fudge" (gemogelt) the size and tonnage a bit to push her over 300 tdw. The original was probably closer to just below 200 tdw.
Also added links on the Link Page and the harbor page to all fellow harbor builders.
As usual I set the date of build at 1962, feel free to change that at your pleasure.
I have about 500 more ship plans and such, but rarely enough time to act on all my idea's and frankly I do like to play the game to relax after long hours at work.
Greetings to all fellow players from Bearovia, Bearsie
http://mysite.verizon.net/ress3y0n _________________ Frohe Reise, Bearsie. |
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Bearsie PoC Regular Unlicensed
Joined: 23 Feb 2005 Posts: 1161 Location: North of Kvaerner Yard, Philadelphia, USA
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 12:25 am Post subject: Bulkers |
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DSR Bulker Liebenwalde
Australian Bulker Iron Flinders, Tyne built 70's
Bulker Diamond_53, far east yard, 2007
All values including fuel consumption came from the builders or owners.
Back to coasters next _________________ Frohe Reise, Bearsie. |
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Bearsie PoC Regular Unlicensed
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Bearsie PoC Regular Unlicensed
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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 4:33 pm Post subject: aux schooner |
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New off the slip: "MS Molliette", 1919 uk. I sold her to France
An auxilary schooner with concrete hull, 300 tdw.
Located on the: Oldies but Goldies page.
In real life she probably didn't make more than 8 knots...
http://mysite.verizon.net/ress3y0n
Just about the last concrete ship I had plans for and info on.
Website with history and pictures here :
http://www.nhsc.org.uk/index.cfm/event/getVessel/vref/716 _________________ Frohe Reise, Bearsie. |
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Christian Todt PoC Veteran Platinum Licensee
Joined: 21 Mar 2003 Posts: 1056 Location: Hamburg, Germany
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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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hi bearsie,
i picked up this website http://www.swiss-ships.ch/fr_startseite.htm
youi can find there a lot of vessels. also coasters. ofcourse all under swiss flag.
CT
PS.
If you want you can send me some more vessels to load them up for you.
my problems with the internet are solved for a while now. |
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StickyMonk PoC Veteran Special Licensee
Joined: 28 Aug 2006 Posts: 676 Location: South lincolnshire England
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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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I had no idea that any ship was made with a concrete hull!!! Very intresting ship _________________ Cheers
Matthew
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Bearsie PoC Regular Unlicensed
Joined: 23 Feb 2005 Posts: 1161 Location: North of Kvaerner Yard, Philadelphia, USA
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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Christian, cool website _________________ Frohe Reise, Bearsie. |
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Bearsie PoC Regular Unlicensed
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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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StickyMonk wrote: | I had no idea that any ship was made with a concrete hull!!! Very intresting ship |
Yup, as far back as around 1910 in Norway and Denmark.
During WWI and WWII in the USA and the UK and Germany.
The last about 60 coasters, USA made bigger ones, somewhere between 7000 and 12 000 tons I believe.
By total tonnage built the UK is the leader, even until today.
Concrete ships are very corrosion resistant (low maintenance), drawback is the high weight of the hull in relation to pay load.
I have some url's flying about someplace if you are interested. _________________ Frohe Reise, Bearsie. |
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Christian Todt PoC Veteran Platinum Licensee
Joined: 21 Mar 2003 Posts: 1056 Location: Hamburg, Germany
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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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i cant imagine that it's possibile to make profit with these vessels as the fuel consumption an related cost should takes back the costs you saved at the maintainance. but maybe these ships were more resistant against subliner attacks while the wars...
CT |
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Bearsie PoC Regular Unlicensed
Joined: 23 Feb 2005 Posts: 1161 Location: North of Kvaerner Yard, Philadelphia, USA
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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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Christian Todt wrote: | i cant imagine that it's possibile to make profit with these vessels as the fuel consumption an related cost should takes back the costs you saved at the maintainance. but maybe these ships were more resistant against subliner attacks while the wars...
CT |
Quite correct. Since the fuel cost is determined by total weight a concrete ship will always use more fuel per ton carried and that is enough to not make a profit...
Although modern material science ( especially at the University of Munich and Magdeburg) would allow to close the weight gap to a point.
Then you get into the problem that there is no experienced staff which can work with concrete.
Some of that research is sponsored by Dyckerhoff and Weiss (?)
And there is an annual concrete canoe race (Betonkanu Wettbewerb)
You might like that idea
For you it will be easy to visit a concrete coaster, one is a Disco in Bremen.
Just google : Betonschiff Treue. The other is a Museum ship in Rostock (Capella) _________________ Frohe Reise, Bearsie. |
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Bearsie PoC Regular Unlicensed
Joined: 23 Feb 2005 Posts: 1161 Location: North of Kvaerner Yard, Philadelphia, USA
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 8:29 pm Post subject: Mitzlow |
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DSR coaster Mitzlow, 720 tdw, 1971.
Quite a few were delivered to Norway.
The ship could haul containers, around 60 Teu or so.
I only made the xml as freighter.
http://mysite.verizon.net/ress3y0n/ _________________ Frohe Reise, Bearsie. |
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Bearsie PoC Regular Unlicensed
Joined: 23 Feb 2005 Posts: 1161 Location: North of Kvaerner Yard, Philadelphia, USA
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 9:21 pm Post subject: Handy size Bulker |
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Handy size bulker Ms Freudenfels of the Hansa Line, Bremen.
21 000 tdw 1975, 15.5 knots.
On the heavy lift page.
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