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What type of new ships do you want me to do next?
Large tankers
18%
 18%  [ 5 ]
small/medium tankers
3%
 3%  [ 1 ]
large bulk
14%
 14%  [ 4 ]
small/medium bulk
7%
 7%  [ 2 ]
large container ships
22%
 22%  [ 6 ]
small/medium container ships
3%
 3%  [ 1 ]
liners
11%
 11%  [ 3 ]
RoRo
11%
 11%  [ 3 ]
NONE!!! do the damn top views!!!!!!!
7%
 7%  [ 2 ]
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 9:51 pm    Post subject: what type of new ship Reply with quote

I have a lot of ships in the making so what type of new ships do you want me to do next?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know, that i vote, for large tankers, but I also would like to see some more Tankers, that can pass the Panama Canal. If iI remember correct, there is a tanker about 60000 tons, that can pass the Panama Canal, but there is only about 2 of theme in the game, and I dont think thats enough.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I , of course, voted for the large container ships.
I could also have done the : NONE..... option, but you know you HAVE to do that. Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The bearovian flagged tanker Hardanger Vidda of 75 000 tdw is about the only "large" tanker that will fit the Panama canal, so maybe a few more in that size range?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HI Bearsie. Maybe I should take a new look, at your site, and try to find that tanker. Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi stickymonk,

i suggest the following: do the wished ships (needn't to be very lots)
and do the topviews from time to time. Cool
so it won't get boring.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any type of ships constructed after year 2000 and just below panamax in size are good.

The newer ships in the game are almost exclusively either too small to be useful or post panamax.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally, I like the older ships. If I ever learn to do these ships, I want to do steamships from the early 1900's up to 1940. That is when a ship, really looked like a ship.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know if there is much interest here for this type of ship, but this one was a cargo vessel built on the Clyde River in Scotland in 1879. It is called "Waterloo".



Would this type of drawing work on POC??
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It sure would Smile
got any particulars?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 12:50 am    Post subject: Waterloo Reply with quote

Personally I use U-Lead Photo Impact to draw.
Others use different programs

and here is the (tested) file for Waterloo:

<ship>
<index>534</index>
<kategorie_typ>CARGO</kategorie_typ>
<sub_typ>CARGO</sub_typ>
<schiffsname>Waterloo</schiffsname>
<baujahr>1955</baujahr> I usually set it at 62 for practical reasons
<sondergueter_code>0</sondergueter_code>
<statusreq>5</statusreq>
<delivertime>24</delivertime>
<flat_cont_TEU>0</flat_cont_TEU>
<TEU>0</TEU>
<kuehlschiff TEU>0</kuehlschiff TEU>
<laenge>74.5</laenge>
<breite>11.5</breite>
<tiefgang>4.6</tiefgang>
<brt>1398</brt>
<dwt>1870</dwt>
<nrt>732</nrt>
<anzahl_passagiere>0</anzahl_passagiere> I never have passengers....
<firstclass>0</firstclass>
<crew>26</crew> set as realistic as I can
<betriebskosten>780</betriebskosten> 30 dollars per crew/day
<max_geschw>13.6</max_geschw>
<kw>1280</kw>
<treibstoffverbrauch>120</treibstoffverbrauch>
<bunkerkap>240</bunkerkap>
<preis_max>620</preis_max>
<bugstrahl>0</bugstrahl>
<heckstrahl>0</heckstrahl>
<traegheit>8</traegheit>
<korrosionsfak>0.5</korrosionsfak>
<umschlagzeit>2</umschlagzeit>
<sonderschiff_frachtart>-</sonderschiff_frachtart>
<moegliche_optionen>0</moegliche_optionen>
<bildinforeferenz>Waterloo</bildinforeferenz>
<sonderinfos>Sail</sonderinfos>
<flagge>UK</flagge>
<werft>govan</werft>
<flags>-</flags>
<cars>-</cars>
<trailers>-</trailers>
<maxshipavailable>12</maxshipavailable>
<rentingcostperday>0</rentingcostperday>
<stretchcostperbed>0</stretchcostperbed>
<smallwater>0</smallwater>
<harbourships>0</harbourships>
<waterline>76</waterline>
<sndfile>cont01</sndfile>
<sndscale>1.5</sndscale>
<sndoffset>10</sndoffset>
</ship>

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

maltonmanor wrote:
I don't know if there is much interest here for this type of ship, but this one was a cargo vessel built on the Clyde River in Scotland in 1879. It is called "Waterloo".



Would this type of drawing work on POC??


Of course there is interest, Stickymonk has the "Waverley" and I have all sorts of "oldish" and "smallish" vessels on my site and actually a lot more on my computer Wink
In short the 3 main "builders" of vessels for the game are a bit spezialised in different directions, I tend to have older and smaller, Stickymonk has a lot of BIG bulkers and container vessels, Zootier has plenty of big Passenger vehicles and RoRo and such Smile
So there are ships for all tastes.
An Oldie "Shipyard" would be a great addition I think Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

These are the stats I have on the Waterloo:

Iron Well-Deck Steamer
Built 1879
Builder: London & Glasgow Shipbuilding & Engineering Co
Length: 254.4'
Beam: 33.1'
Draft: 18.7'
GRT: 1,283
Engine: 2-Cylinder Compound Engine (26", 54"-36")
Boiler: Double ended with 90 lbs. pressure (pre Scotch Boiler)
Auxillary: Donkey Boiler with 80lbs. pressure
Owner: Allan C. Gow & Co, (percusor of Glen Line)

Sails assisted in compensating for the high fuel consumption.

Perhaps I should add the sails to the picture??
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bearslie,

Thanks very much for doing that and for sending me a few of your older vessels. They look great. I have looked at your website quite a bit before I started posting here, along with Zootier's and a few others. Some great looking ships there!!

I wouldn't mind putting together an old shipyard, but I am still trying to figure out how to do these things. I think I need a little more practice first.

Brad
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got the dimensions almost right just guessing Smile
Fuel consumption is tricky, I usually base it on horsepower and comparisons. Since I don't know her horse power perhaps some fiddling
with the fuel consumption % is needed, and of course we don't have coal in the game either.
Bearovian engineers have a rather scientific method to arrive at these numbers, holding their left thumb straight up, one eye closed peeking into a waning moon and Voila!!! The magic number appears Wink

Sails would look awesome Smile
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