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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 3:42 pm    Post subject: I want to do something new.... Reply with quote

Does anyone know of any decent shots of a forrest product carrier? or maybe more than just one, as I would like to add some to my list of ships, also I want to plug a gap in the passenger ship market, there is a real lack of them in the 80's and 90's anyone know of any built in that time?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 4:12 pm    Post subject: Re: I want to do something new.... Reply with quote

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Does anyone know of any decent shots of a forrest product carrier? or maybe more than just one, as I would like to add some to my list of ships, also I want to plug a gap in the passenger ship market, there is a real lack of them in the 80's and 90's anyone know of any built in that time?


We'll have to poke about ...
Do you mean like a log / timber carrier?
I have all those timber ships from the 60's, but that is probably
not what you mean ?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

here is one, Forest Product Carreier Nora, 2100 dwt
http://www.conoship.com/uk/vessels/mpp/page13.htm
maybe this on is something for you: http://www.schiffsphoto.de/HTM/Spezial/JaegerArrow.htm

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

filips hollandicus wrote:
here is one, Forest Product Carreier Nora, 2100 dwt
http://www.conoship.com/uk/vessels/mpp/page13.htm
maybe this on is something for you: http://www.schiffsphoto.de/HTM/Spezial/JaegerArrow.htm

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The first one is cute Very Happy
number 2 is... Rolling Eyes although it has nifty overhead cranes installed Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

those are good ones, how do they load that second one????
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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those are good ones, how do they load that second one????

google their website and you will see garage doors opening on the right
side (starboard) then track fold out and a bridge crane
(overhead crane) goes in and out with the cargo,
let me find the manufacturer of the cranes again

scroll down, there are the pictures, the one on the right
shows the crane coming out with 12 paper rolls:

http://www.tsuji-hi.com/en/products/gantrycranes.html
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^that's a system often used on paper carriers. They have a couple of lifttrucks on board, which supply the crane, and the crane loads/unloads the cargo.
These ships are more or less the same as Ro-Ro carriers, but build for other purposes.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 7:32 pm    Post subject: Re: I want to do something new.... Reply with quote

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...also I want to plug a gap in the passenger ship market, there is a real lack of them in the 80's and 90's anyone know of any built in that time?


Here is a link with all existing ships > 10,000 GT, listed by operator and name: http://www.coltoncompany.com/shipbldg/worldsbldg/cruise/cruiseoperators.htm
Here is a link with small cruise ships (<500 passengers): http://smallshipcruises.com/alltheboats.shtml

I think this will help.
Personaly I like to see the QE II.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or just look at Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cruise_ships
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ocean_liners

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a book "Die größten Passagierschiffe der Welt" (The largest liners of the world) by arnold kludas. all existent ships above 10000 GT are in it.
i'm not quite sure if there's an english version also.
if you should get it you'll have lots of work.... Cool

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I have 5 forest product carriers just about ready to go up, top and side views. Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what about estonia as a passenger carrier? built 1980...
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have underway a few liners from the 80's and 90's, but things are going to be progressing slowly for the forseable future due to work Sad

I shall check out the Estonia....
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That Gearbulk vessel is called a Newsprint Carrier. I used to work for Abitibi-Price Shipping, and I operated a fleet of 5 of those ships. They were exceptionally clean vessels and handling of the cargo is very carefully orchestrated. Because the rolls have to fit on a printing press, any dent render the roll almost unusable. If there was a 1" deep cut in the paper, it would destroy 20% of the roll (to illustrate, make a cut in a roll of toilet paper and see how many sheet are actually destroyed.

There really is no such thing as a passenger vessel anymore. Nothing like the days of the Great Liners that plied the world's oceans. Ships like the Titantic, Mauretania, Canberra, Queen Mary, Empress of Canada are all gone. There are of course cruise ships, but they are a totally different beast. Some countries have very large ferries, but these are just that, ferries, not passenger liners.

To properly use those, we would have to set the POC clock back to the 1920's. Any interest????
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Maltonmanor, welcome to the forum Smile
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