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Arie Zwart
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 4:54 pm    Post subject: Life stock Reply with quote

Hi,

With the help of Bearsie,Zootier and Stickymonk playing the game is good.

Wjen can we expect lifestock cargo and ships??

I know there is a lot of that from Australia to the Middle East??

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What are lifestock ships?

I do not know the term Embarassed Do you know the german term, or can you describe them?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure, but lifestock are the ships who has animals on board. ???
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, that's them. They transport living animals.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahhh, ok!

I´ll take a look for them!

The cargo "living Animals" is already in the game.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi
thats correct.
A dutch compenie called Vroon have a lot of them.
Mostly they transport sheep,cows or pigs as cargo.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

they should carry politicians as well......
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

why - every country has and produces enough of them...
its like importing waste.... only if you get paid, not if you have to pay for them... Cool
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I currently have two livestock carrier ready for testing!

But i am not really happy with the system PoC handels cargo. Taking the dwt as cargo unit is useless for the livestock carrier, because they are often old rebuild ships, and an old oiltanker has much more dwt as an old containership or a car carrier, but that tells really nothing about how many animals that ship can carry.

I think the best way would be a system like the game handels cars and trailers because carrying livestock is quite similar to that.

I have planned to make two cargos for these ships, sheeps and cattle.
A sheep weights about 85 to 105 kg, a cow between 800 and 1.000 kg

Maybe i should take the car carrying system for these ships too. 10 sheeps = 1 unit freightcode 20 and 10 cows = 1 unit freightcode 21.
The only bad think of that would be that livestock carriers would be able to carry cars and trucks too, but in the current version of the game containerships can carry iron ore, so what Rolling Eyes

Any other ideas?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finally i have changed the Livestock Freight system.
I have seen that most livestock carrier can load five times as many sheep as they can load cattle.
So i have made the livestock carrier to containerships.
One TEU Cattle are 20 Cattle, weight 20 tons and one TEU sheep are 100 sheep, weight 10 tons. That works pretty good i think.

Sure, you can load livestock on to normal container ships now, but that is on you not to do so! It is the same with crude oil tanker loading liquefied gas, it is on you and your discipline not to do that!

Using the livestock good for normal containerships is like a cheat, because the freight rates for carrying livestock are to high for a container ship. For livestock carrier they are ok i think, because they can not load that much TEU (the biggest can load 1.350 TEU = 135.000 sheep or 27.000 cattle) and they often must run over big distances in unloaded condition.

I will upload them in a few minutes.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I could need some help!

I have good useable pictures of two more livestock carriers, but i have not found all the needed data.

The ships are the CORRIEDALE EXPRESS IMO7022356 build 1970 and the
Al Qurain IMO 6622410 (re)build 1979.

Maybe some one can help me with that problem!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.miramarshipindex.org.nz/ship/show/40199
Maybe you can find some brief info about reg vsl.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, but the ships are allready on my website for more than a half year!

And the Miramar Index was one of the first websites i have used doing my ships. But the problem with Miramar is, that you did not find all the needed datas on that site.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I even have 2 on mine Smile
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