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rdklein PoC Veteran Admin

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DennisV PoC Veteran Platinum Licensee

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Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 10:37 am Post subject: |
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Hi,
Is the next update for the sim 3d II planned allready?
And when is it?
And what will be changed?
Best regards,
DennisV |
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rdklein PoC Veteran Admin

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Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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yes very soon, I just tested some parts of 1.61, some bugfixes are also contained (like a mirror problem with the new containers from poc 2008).
more info soon. |
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rdklein PoC Veteran Admin

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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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shortly before release:
some new features:
a) addon ships and addon habours available without platinum license, so you can test them and also use the expansion packs without a license
b) new island more details
c) 2 more reef scenes coming
d) a simple easytrainer scene especially for the limited demo time
e) f3 map now can hanle large ships much better (zoom limits new)
f) radar display also adjusted for large ships like QM2, Megapott
g) new button with directy link for addon packs
h) bugfix: the mirrored container in the water reflexion have a wrong direction with 1.60 (90deg)
i) for stereo users new aspect ratio adjustment for 2:1 ration, used with split screen 3d headset displays, also offsets possible with this versions for mid point adjustments |
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corne_mo PoC Veteran Platinum Licensee

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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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Nice to see there is a new update coming.
Two questions:
- I remember there was an error in the lock sizes due to the implementation of the locks in 3DII. The movable locks took some width from the sailable area. Is this corrected already?
(I remember I uploaded a picture on this forum with info about the locks in the port of antwerp).
- I also posted in this forum a question about berthing places (especially for Antwerp, as that is my home port). A containership berthing at a shell loading dock, and a 4000 TUE containership berthing in a place where no ship is berthed since the 60's. Is this tackled? _________________ Freight Containers In The Port Of Antwerp |
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rdklein PoC Veteran Admin

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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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thanks for the reminder I will check at Antwerpen - I remember I worked on this part, but was some time ago, so I can update this also. |
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rdklein PoC Veteran Admin

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Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 10:14 am Post subject: |
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I just search for, but the old links are not available with the info:
Quote: | I also posted in this forum a question about berthing places (especially for Antwerp, as that is my home port). A containership berthing at a shell loading dock, and a 4000 TUE containership berthing in a place where no ship is berthed since the 60's. Is this tackled? |
Can you tell more specific where this place was in the game, so I change the attributes.
I adjusted the lock to handle our large tanker in the next update, also some berth places were added directly before the entrances of the main locks as the shape changed since my last map I had. |
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corne_mo PoC Veteran Platinum Licensee

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Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 10:43 am Post subject: |
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Indeed, planet internet is now completely part of kpn and the homepage directories are changed. So that's why the old images aren't available anymore.
Here are the images I posted accros this forum earlier:
This is a berthing spot you used for containers. It's actually Shell Antwerp. I've seen more wrong berthing spots btw. If you need more info I'll make some more images. I can give you exact positions for different types of vessels. Only the maximum DWT/TUE will be more difficult to check. This image is a close up of the region between the van Caewelaertsluis and royerssluis textblocks in the second image.
And the locks info:
RDK: google earth images removed after review due to copyright issues
And this is a problem in Naples, in 2Dsim. The parallel parked boats on the right in the head-side of the berths are giving the problems.
[/b] _________________ Freight Containers In The Port Of Antwerp |
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rdklein PoC Veteran Admin

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Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks that helps, -- I just removed the google images (after printing), as there might be copyright issues.
Naples is corrected for the next pocxxl update. There is also an update on the map in 3d. |
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Sparky PoC Veteran Platinum Licensee

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Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | And this is a problem in Naples, in 2Dsim. The parallel parked boats on the right in the head-side of the berths are giving the problems |
This is not only a problem in 2d but also in 3d and not only for the port of Naples. I encountered it in several other ports (playing 3d only at the moment). It can be done without tugs as long as the ship has bow and stern thrusters, but it is very unlikely that a pilot/captain will handle this berth without tugs.
With the last supplement for SIM3DII we have now two old veterans without thrusters (my and others wish, thanks for doing them) . It will be impossible for them to berth in such a place, not accessible. |
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rdklein PoC Veteran Admin

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Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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yes 2d and 3d are corrected usually at the same time.
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for ships without bow and stern trhusters the only way to manoever out or in is to do a slow collision, which does not cause damage (0.001% or so), and using the forces to turn the ship. The ship without the trhuster are usually cargo ships and small and get other berth places anyway,
but if you discover a problem let me know and please make a screen dump like corn_mo did, so I can correct it. Its impossible for me to test all combinations myself (90 harbours x 20 berth places or so... x n ). |
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corne_mo PoC Veteran Platinum Licensee

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Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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rdklein wrote: | Thanks that helps, -- I just removed the google images (after printing), as there might be copyright issues. |
If I have other maps or printscreens of wrong berths in antwerp I'll mail them to you through the mail option in this forum (or with a weblink). _________________ Freight Containers In The Port Of Antwerp |
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rdklein PoC Veteran Admin

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Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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yes perfect, you can send a PM and an url in the mail, I will download.
I am just about on a complete rework of the 3d version of Antwerpen, it will get a large port indeed, der 3d file is now around 45 MB, mainly due the many oil tanks around.
This will go into the next update of course.
After the 3d rework I will also update the 2d version (for berth definitions which I started to change), currently I cant keep them in sync at the same time (as 3d work has been done already). |
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corne_mo PoC Veteran Platinum Licensee

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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 5:54 am Post subject: |
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RDK: Tell me what info you need, or what needs to be verified. With google earth you can get a lot of info nowadays too but I'm more than willing to supply you with correct and updated info. _________________ Freight Containers In The Port Of Antwerp |
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rdklein PoC Veteran Admin

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Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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hiere some of the new screens of the Antwerpen scenes.
The wind energy system turn into the current wind direction automatically.
I added several landmarks to give an impression of the harbour:
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