How about building your own ships?

DennisV · Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 6:03 pm Post subject: will there also be......

will there also be a "finished parts" section, like building blocks (like lego)

Bearsie · Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 3:32 am Post subject:

I definitely like the idea of owning a Shipyard Cool

many ways to do that I suppose, it could even be incorporated into the Stockmarket (which I don't play). Same could be done with Tugboats.
Although it's rather the idea to build ships that intrigues me.

Quote: "There should be limitation acording to DATE (no bow/Stern thrusters in 1975 for example) and of course between features (small engine cannot move huge ship etc.)"

Young man Smile

1975 wasn't exactly the Stone Age!
We had Bow Thrusters and Stern Thrusters back in 64 Wink

Regards, Bearsie.

Mutos · Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 5:22 am Post subject:

Hi all,

Haven't been on this forum for long and I see this topic isn't dead by now, so it seems to be a real trend towards this shipbilding thing, as shown by poll figures ^-^

Still seems to me a very very good idea. But the dev implications are huge. I don't know how ships are modelled but this implies a complete functionnal ship model maybe deeper than the one already in place, access to this model via the editor, lots of balance equations between factors to prevent inbalancing the game and moreover, lots and lots and lots of beta tests to see if everything fits well !

I'm currently talking with some people who're doing just that for their space simulations and that seems to be very far from trivial... For my game I've settled for a simpler model, w/ only external characteristics being level-moddable.

I favor the separate ship editor in a first time, then options to command a custom ship to a shipyard, then later on option to buy a shipyard. That's how I would integrate it, by manageable steps.
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Olle P · Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:37 pm Post subject: Better with half measures...

As I've understood it just about every single ship that is being built today is a custom design based on the buyers specific needs.

Therefore it wouldn't be unrealistic to buy (have somebody else to actually design and build) a brand new ship by filling up a form (wish list) and then chose one out of three or so presented designs that fit those wishes.

Cheers
Olle

Shouri · Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 9:14 pm Post subject:

I'm for the idee of a shipyard, even with the option of building ships for the other players in the game... Twisted Evil

But the shipyard would also be in different sizes, usually shipyards (except for Japan and Korea) start small and become bigger whit fame and hard work... that also could be implemented.
Not every shipyard can build a Jahre Viking...

Shouri
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hydrogeek · Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 4:49 am Post subject:

So how about having a feature where you can submit an RFP (Request for Proposals) to fit a certain set of rather vague constraints, ie 1000-1250 TEUs, 15+ knots...prices between $12.5 mil and $17.5 mil...

or something like that

this would eliminate the need for owning your own shipyard, however you might be able to order a whole slew of ships more then you need and then lease them out to other players.

The problem with this though is that you would want to have at least two, if not three, shipyards to purchase from - maybe each one specializing in a specific type of ship (niche markets) but all competing head to head for the "normal" classes - Passenger Liners - Ferries - breakbulk - Container ships - petroleum tankers - other tankers?

Does this make sense? (If it doesn't overwhelm the programmer(s)...

Jeremy

mip · Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 3:57 pm Post subject:

Bregalad · Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 5:06 pm Post subject:

Shouri · Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 8:38 pm Post subject:

that give also another idee..... why not build ships, even navy ships to countries. So any countries in the game may order ships to a player providing the player has the technology to do it..... just an idee
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hydrogeek · Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 6:46 pm Post subject:

at that point you might as well have another game that is about shipbuilding and researching techs, etc, or maybe a module/exaonsion pack of some sort.

Bearsie · Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 11:52 pm Post subject:

hydrogeek · Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 11:59 pm Post subject:

Wow - You are waaay more dedicated to that shipbuilding idea then I had thought (considering you went in an modified the code!)

Bearsie · Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 12:00 am Post subject:

Bearsie · Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 12:20 am Post subject:

hydrogeek · Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 12:24 am Post subject:

ok, well not code in the legally protected sort, but a type of code nonetheless Wink

I don't think I am even still quite that dedicated Smile