Ports Of Call Forum Index Impressum / Contact // data privacy / Datenschutz
 

 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

How about building your own ships?
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Ports Of Call Forum Index -> XXL General Discussion
View previous topic :: View next topic  

Would you like to be able to develop & build your ships?
Yes !
95%
 95%  [ 100 ]
No !
4%
 4%  [ 5 ]
Total Votes : 105

Author Message
speedyy
PoC Regular
Unlicensed
PoC Regular<br>Unlicensed


Joined: 02 Oct 2002
Posts: 47

PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2003 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="mtza"][quote="speedyy"]... your idea looks good, but personally the idea of OWNING a shipyard doesn't feel very good to me,just because building ships and using them are two totally different things,...,but i agree that there has to be more options when building a ship[/quote]

Ok I accept the point! Then you should not own a shipyard.
How about having status limits?
minimum status of 30 for example for new ship and min 40-45 for new research.
This makes sence because if you are not a serious bussiness no shipyard would take you seriously.

But I still believe you should be able to sell the ships you develop!![/quote]

Yes, options and succes must be status dependant, because the goal of reaching a high amount of money isn't a big problem

even your status indications are quite good
50 for research, 75 for hoovercraft technology(just an idea)and 100 for cheap fueled high performance engines for instance

I would even go further but i don't think RDKLEIN would implement a 4 MW Pulse Laser in the game a la ELITE Laughing Laughing Laughing
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
McEagle
PoC Veteran
Platinum Licensee
PoC Veteran<br>Platinum Licensee


Joined: 09 Aug 2002
Posts: 73
Location: Katzelsdorf / Austria

PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2003 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think there should be no status limits, becuase money makes the business. I you have the money you can do everything! Or not?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
rdklein
PoC Veteran
Admin
PoC Veteran<br>Admin


Joined: 06 Aug 2002
Posts: 5301
Location: Germany

PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2003 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

not always - sometimes you need a good status so people trust in your business,
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Panos
PoC Frequent Visitor
Unlicensed
PoC Frequent Visitor<br>Unlicensed


Joined: 10 Sep 2002
Posts: 35
Location: Greece

PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2003 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my opinion you have posted very intresting ideas!!!

But....

Shipowners in (real life) when they order a Newbuilding they choose the following main items:

1) Ship type -
(Bulk Carrier, Tanker, Liquid Petroleum Gas, Liquid Natural Gas, etc.)

2) Ship Size - (Depends on DWT of ship)
(Handy, Panamax, Suezmax, Very Large Crude Carrier, Ultra Large Clude Carrier, etc.)

3) Engine type - (Engine BHP depends on DWT)
(B&W Man, Sulzer, Mitsubishi, Pielstic)

When shipowner orders to a Shipyard a newbuilding cannot choose the length and/or beam of the vessel. This depends on DWT of vessel and it is up to naval architect to arrange the proportion Length-Beam.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Panos
PoC Frequent Visitor
Unlicensed
PoC Frequent Visitor<br>Unlicensed


Joined: 10 Sep 2002
Posts: 35
Location: Greece

PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2003 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

McEagle wrote:
I think there should be no status limits, becuase money makes the business. I you have the money you can do everything! Or not?


I beleive status is equal to reputation. It is implied (in most cases) that a shipowner who has billions and lots of ships has a good reputation and therfore a good status.

i.e. When your status is low banks cannot trust you and you cannot easily raise a mortgage.
i.e. Charteres will not trust you and wont get a good rate if your status is low.
_________________
Best Regards,
Panagiotis Krialakos
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
McEagle
PoC Veteran
Platinum Licensee
PoC Veteran<br>Platinum Licensee


Joined: 09 Aug 2002
Posts: 73
Location: Katzelsdorf / Austria

PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2003 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Panos

You're right but what if I have billions of cash but only a few statuspoints: I can pay my new ship - why shouldn't they build me a ship (the same for research).

I only think that it is not necessary to link 'build an new ship' with statuspoints.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
rdklein
PoC Veteran
Admin
PoC Veteran<br>Admin


Joined: 06 Aug 2002
Posts: 5301
Location: Germany

PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2003 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes, we think about a refinement on this, but the only point is that if status is low, then there is no mortgage for example, so I can change the behavior a little bit. -- ideas: --
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Panos
PoC Frequent Visitor
Unlicensed
PoC Frequent Visitor<br>Unlicensed


Joined: 10 Sep 2002
Posts: 35
Location: Greece

PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2003 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

McEagle wrote:
@Panos

You're right but what if I have billions of cash but only a few statuspoints: I can pay my new ship - why shouldn't they build me a ship (the same for research).

I only think that it is not necessary to link 'build an new ship' with statuspoints.


I agree with you.
If you have billions it would be nice to have also status points.
_________________
Best Regards,
Panagiotis Krialakos
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
/\LPH/\
PoC Veteran
Platinum Licensee
PoC Veteran<br>Platinum Licensee


Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Posts: 95
Location: Germany

PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2003 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:

yes, we think about a refinement on this, but the only point is that if status is low, then there is no mortgage for example, so I can change the
behavior a little bit. -- ideas: --


How about the effectifness of the comercials on the statuspoints.
Maybe if you just lost statuspoints because you sunk a ship the comercials should be non effective.
_________________
Die Welt die wir geschaffen haben ist das Resulat einer überholten Denkweise

Probleme die daraus entstehen können nicht mit der gleichen Denkweise gelöst werden

-Einstein-
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
thoreson9
PoC Regular
Unlicensed
PoC Regular<br>Unlicensed


Joined: 23 Aug 2002
Posts: 213
Location: Erie,Pennslyvania, United States

PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2003 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it also possible when you order one ship, to order several of them? For example, you order a 5,000 TEU ship. You then have a button to enter whether you want one ship, or ten ships of the same design. It's done all the time in real life.
_________________
Bring on the Great Lakes!

Visit my shipping website, lots of photos of Great Lakes ships. http://lakeeriepassages.50megs.com
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address MSN Messenger
mtza
PoC Frequent Visitor
Unlicensed
PoC Frequent Visitor<br>Unlicensed


Joined: 12 Dec 2002
Posts: 16
Location: Vienna, Austria

PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2003 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I like the idea of ordering more ships of the same type for a discounted price!

And I think that should also work in KARA with the existing ships.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Mutos
PoC Regular
Gold Licensee
PoC Regular<br>Gold Licensee


Joined: 14 Dec 2004
Posts: 21
Location: France, near Paris

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi all,


From this thread I think people are generally interested in a shipbuilding option but afraid of inbalancing the game.

So why not have the game shipped with a standalone ship editor in a first phase. This way, the game itself stays as it is for now and when the ship editor has been thoroughly tested and discussed and is OK, it can be fully integrated into the game in a second phase ? Looks kindda same as 3D...

There could even be a shipyad section on the site, where players could upload their creations, to be used and reviewed by other players...
_________________
@+

Benoît 'Mutos' ROBIN
http://hoshikaze.net
http://spacesims.hoshikaze.net
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
DennisV
PoC Veteran
Platinum Licensee
PoC Veteran<br>Platinum Licensee


Joined: 12 May 2005
Posts: 212

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 1:20 pm    Post subject: I like this idea Reply with quote

Hey mutos,

That is a great idea!!!

I love it!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
TheGuardian
PoC Regular
Platinum Licensee
PoC Regular<br>Platinum Licensee


Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Posts: 17

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 3:40 pm    Post subject: Re: I like this idea Reply with quote

DennisV wrote:
Hey mutos,

That is a great idea!!!

I love it!


yes - same with me Very Happy
_________________
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Mutos
PoC Regular
Gold Licensee
PoC Regular<br>Gold Licensee


Joined: 14 Dec 2004
Posts: 21
Location: France, near Paris

PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi all,


Glad u like it ! It occurred to me as it's already implemented in many games.
_________________
@+

Benoît 'Mutos' ROBIN
http://hoshikaze.net
http://spacesims.hoshikaze.net
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Ports Of Call Forum Index -> XXL General Discussion All times are GMT
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next
Page 2 of 5

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group